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    Just dropped the headlining in R514 RVJ, as it was drooping in the middle, not the material, but the actual panel itself. On dropping the panel, in order to place a double sided sticky pad behind it, I found this stuff, as well as a small hole in the backing which is dangerous for the material...

    I am sure this foam stuff shouldn't be here, at least not in this form, shall I remove it...?
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    Steve Worsley

    R514 RVJ - 1998 Rover Maestro 1.3 - Restoration
    VX12 EBG - 2012 MG-6 GT 1.8T SE - Stored
    J209 PEL - 1991 Rover Maestro 1.3 Clubman - Running

  • #2
    Do you perchance have a sunroof fitted? That to me looks like the sunroof expanding foam strip...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Wonko_The_Sane
      Do you perchance have a sunroof fitted? That to me looks like the sunroof expanding foam strip...
      No sunroof. It also has a foam strip running down the middle of the front of the roof. That one's intact.

      Can I just remove all this crap foam and put the sticky pad up there, or do I need to have foam there?
      Steve Worsley

      R514 RVJ - 1998 Rover Maestro 1.3 - Restoration
      VX12 EBG - 2012 MG-6 GT 1.8T SE - Stored
      J209 PEL - 1991 Rover Maestro 1.3 Clubman - Running

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      • #4
        The foam is probably to stop the headlining rattling against the roof, as long as you replace it with something similar you wont have any problems.

        Gareth

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        • #5
          When I lowered the roof lining in my 2.0i I found a peice of the lining material and foam backing which was the same size as the sunroof appature, I thought hiding rubish in the car stopped in the 70s.

          James

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          • #6
            The foam degrades over time just like a carpet and eventully goes to dust. I think its only for sound proofing and to stop rattles, I stapled mine up, not pretty but cheap and effective

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            • #7
              In the past couple of days I have recovered the headlining of my blue mk. 1 VP. I'm peased to report that it was v. easy and cost:

              3M of fabric: 22.91
              Adhesive: 11.69
              Total=34.60

              Probably took about 5 hours in total to remove it, recover and refit. I also got some new-condition sun visors for about a fiver.

              I'll get some pictures together later on if anyone's interested.

              Originally posted by talkingcars
              When I lowered the roof lining in my 2.0i I found a peice of the lining material and foam backing which was the same size as the sunroof appature
              On an early car fitted with a sunroof, that bit of cloth was used to attach the lining to the sunroof tray, using velcro. These cars did not have the plugs that were fitted to the later cars. And yes, you simply cut it out, turn it over and stick it to the back of the biscuit.
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              Owner of E760 DRY - Mk. 2 Shantung Gold Maestro Vanden Plas 2.0 EFi

              If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done. - Sir Peter Ustinov.

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              • #8
                Here are the piccies I promised.

                Here is the biscuit before I recovered it, this is the back of it and you can see where the patch was glued onto it.


                This was just after I'd finished the initial covering and before I had glued the overhangs to the back of the biscuit.



                Note the extra at each corner so that it can be fed down each pillar, behind the pastic trim.

                Here's the lining refitted to the car:



                And the front, viewed from the Driver's side:



                You can also see the recovered sunroof panel - very easy to remove and a doddle to recover, although you do need to remove the sunroof tray.

                As an added bonus, the car has that nice 'new' smell about it now as well!
                Last edited by E_T_V; 9th April 2004, 22:56.
                You can contact me by clicking here.
                Owner of E760 DRY - Mk. 2 Shantung Gold Maestro Vanden Plas 2.0 EFi

                If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done. - Sir Peter Ustinov.

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                • #9
                  Looks good. What fabric and adhesive did you use?
                  Rover 200 and 400 Owners Club (for wedge shape rovers, including coupe, tourer and cabriolet). - www.rover200.org.uk

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                  • #10
                    I bought the materials from Woolies in Market Deeping, near Peterborough.

                    The cloth was a specific headlining cloth called Empire Grey, the adhesive was like Thixofix but was better in that it is able to withstand high temperatures. 1L is about right for a Maestro.
                    You can contact me by clicking here.
                    Owner of E760 DRY - Mk. 2 Shantung Gold Maestro Vanden Plas 2.0 EFi

                    If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done. - Sir Peter Ustinov.

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                    • #11
                      Fantastic job you've done there, it's reassuring to know that in the future when new headlinings are no longer available from Rover we'll still have the means to restore saggy headlinings to a high standard. Those biscuits are ever so brittle though. We came across a big roll of Maestro/Montego grey headlining material at a BL Rally a few years back very cheaply, and I'm still annoyed at myself for not buying it.
                      Jonathan Sellars

                      1987 MG Maestro 2.0 EFi
                      2011 Jaguar XJ

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                      • #12
                        I tried some spray on glue (same sort of thing carpet fitters use) & acheived terrible results when I attempted to repair the sagging headlining in my old Monty estate... perhaps I should have waited until it was almost dry before attempting to put it back together, it really did look awful with glue seeped through the fabric.
                        Needless to say, it got replaced as soon as I found a better one!

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                        • #13
                          Sorry forgot to add,the results you obtained look superb.
                          I shall have to give the MG the same treatment, Deeping isnt too far from me either

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by H536NOG
                            I tried some spray on glue (same sort of thing carpet fitters use) & acheived terrible results... glue seeped through the fabric.
                            Yeah - I thought I'd have the same problem but the glue that I used was snot-like in consistency and the art is to wait long enough for it to go tacky (about 4 - 8 mins) and then roll the lining fabric down onto it. If you start smoothing it down from the middle outwards then you'l get a professoinal-looking finish.

                            I think that there were several different types of biscuit used in Maestros - this one was from a 1983 car and was made out of pressed textile, therefore it was nice and solid. The original one that was in F153 was much thinner and made of finer stands. I've also seen headinings made out of polystyrene such as the stuff that prepacked meat in supermarkets is prepacked in.

                            The new replacement that I bought about 18 months ago for F153 was v. similar to the 1983 one except that it seemed to be thicker and had better sound insulating properties. Seems they went full-circle in the 20 years!

                            Thinking about it, it was probably easier to recover the old biscuit than it was to go to Rover, order a new lining, pay 113, wait for them to deliver it and then fit it. More satisfying too!

                            Today's Maestroing consisted mainly of hacking apart a complete 1.3 LHD wiring loom (just been to Ledders) to get the wiring I'm going to use to fit a better stereo/CD changer to A335. I've now got some cracking wires with fusebox connectors on the ends that I can use. They're even the right colours (Green and Purple)! The biggest problem is that the changer is too big to fit in the glove compartment of the mk. 1 dash. Looks like it'll have to go under the Driver's seat. Oh well looks like it was false economy to get a 6 disc unit thinking it'd fit. I'll prolly be fitting it all tomorrow, along with my modified door cards, home-made plastic moisture shields and better speaker wire. Oh how I love weekends!
                            You can contact me by clicking here.
                            Owner of E760 DRY - Mk. 2 Shantung Gold Maestro Vanden Plas 2.0 EFi

                            If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done. - Sir Peter Ustinov.

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                            • #15
                              Headlining material

                              Originally posted by F153JUE
                              I bought the materials from Woolies in Market Deeping, near Peterborough.

                              The cloth was a specific headlining cloth called Empire Grey, the adhesive was like Thixofix but was better in that it is able to withstand high temperatures. 1L is about right for a Maestro.
                              This is the only one that would cost 22.91 for three metres with VAT - it looks like it is vinyl - is that what you used?

                              Nylon Headlining Foam Backed. 127cm (50") wide. As used on Jaguars, Rovers, Saabs etc 1950's and on.

                              Princess Grey (mid grey) ........................ 10.78 Per mtr
                              Empire Grey (very light grey) ............... only 6.50 Per mtr

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