suspension questions again

[D87SMW]

Sorry Sport, It’s you that’s talking crap...

...the fact that he had to ask the question should make you realise he’s not up to the simple job of removing the suspension let alone chopping a set of springs in half...

Sorry Sport, you're the one being narrow-minded and self-opinionated.

How can you possibly judge somone's abilities that way? He asked a simple question as to how to source parts and how to go about doing the job. Asking for advice does NOT condemn a person's capabilities.

In answer to Ben's query, I agree with Jack. Lowering the car by an inch is barely cutting the thing in half now, is it. I'd rather go by the experience of someone who has actually done the job rather than the theory of someone who has never done it. Thought you knew all about that, Sport?

Sorry Sport, It’s you that’s talking crap. If you put a shortened spring in the rear shockers, when elevated it will pop out of the top seat. You don’t need a spring compressor for the rears only the front.
And if you are seriously suggesting that the lad should be let loose with an angle grinder and an oxy touch you must be out of your mind, the fact that he had to ask the question should make you realise he’s not up to the simple job of removing the suspension let alone chopping a set of springs in half
The real question should be, why on earth would he want to lower the suspension on a diesel? Of course it looks faster!!
HTH
HenryR

thanks for all the comments folks,

i havnt had to touch suspension in the past, but im sure i am up to this 'simple job'

and the reason why i want to lower it is because it eill improve the general look of the car, and allow me to corner in it, without it swaying like a battleship.

ignorant ******s like yourself, sport assume that im a young lad, whos attempting to 'bad boy' up a TD maestro and clearly dont think i have any machanical abilities - not the case

by the way - im perfectly competent at operating an angle grinder

cheers then

I thought this was a modifications board, not a oooh, I don't think so lets leave it board.

As far as talking crap is concerned, I've cut my springs and not had any problems. Maybe Ben's diesel has a different suspension set up than mine but somehow I doubt it.

I'm off back to Triple-m where there is a (little) more understanding.

[B18 GPC]

Idea.

Leave it alone.

buy some springs from somewhere.

buy some shocks from somewhere.

get a local grease monkey to pop them in ...

Sorry Sport, It’s you that’s talking crap. If you put a shortened spring in the rear shockers, when elevated it will pop out of the top seat. You don’t need a spring compressor for the rears only the front.
And if you are seriously suggesting that the lad should be let loose with an angle grinder and an oxy touch you must be out of your mind, the fact that he had to ask the question should make you realise he’s not up to the simple job of removing the suspension let alone chopping a set of springs in half
The real question should be, why on earth would he want to lower the suspension on a diesel? Of course it looks faster!!
HTH
HenryR

Yes you can do it on your driveway. You will definately need spring compressors and for the cheapest way to do this you need an angle grinder and a blow torch, preferably an oxyacetaline torch.

To get the spring flat again after cutting one coil the best way is to heat the end and wind it into an old shock. If you're re-using the shocks you'd have to push it onto the ground, but it doesn't always make them perfectly flat. Let the spring cool in air - do not quench it. See "chassis engineering" by Herb Adams for instructions on how to do all this.

For those of you who say that the spring will fall out of the shock - crap! If that were the case you would barely need spring compressors to remount the spring and you definately do!

Done correctly, cutting springs is fine. It's only shunned by those with enough money to always buy new uprated items. Herb Adams actually recommends cutting over getting new springs!

One final thing - if you cut your springs you actually uprate it in terms of stiffness in proportion to the amount cut. So for virtually nothing you'll end up with lower and uprated springs!

[G51 NAV]

I thought you could actually use the original dampers if money is really tight, providing you tie the springs to them so the springs don't fall out of them when the car is elevated...

[B18 GPC]

Ben , under no circumstances can you ;

Use the old shocks with cut / sport springs

perform this task "on the driveway"

or perform this task without the spring compressor !


*runs*

i want to fit some lowering springs to my turbo diesel maestro

does anyone have or know of any for sale fairly cheaply? - 1 inch lowering

can i retain the original shocks, because i am a pennyless student? lol

and are they easy to fit? do i need a spring compressor or can i 'wangle it' so to speak?

thanks in advance folks

Ben