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  • #16
    If you do fit a T16 engine from an 800 to your monty make sure you change the sump to a 220 one, the 800 one sits a lot lower then a monty one and also the 800 and I lost 2 before I switched to a 220 one, this also means you will have to fit a 220 downpipe and oil pick up strainer though.

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    • #17
      Hi James

      The intake pipe is in the boot & looking a bit sorry for itself
      The pics were taken by the previous owner (no snow ... I only got the car yesterday) so there is slightly more than you can see on those pics, basically it is brown at the base of both 'A' pillars where they meet the sills, same at the base of the 'B' pillars, the rear arches are just starting (o/s bubbling up a bit) so I shall replace both sills & both rear arches.
      It looks like its had a coat of paint too, the bottom front corner(n/s headlight near grille) has clearly been filled, that will be coming out & fresh metal going in along with lead to finish it instead of filler... by autumn it will be 100% solid again.
      Regarding fitting a C27A lump into a Maestro / Montego ... It is not a viable proposition, I had 3 of those engines sat around (Mrs. was going wild & likened the place to Steptoe's yard )
      The removable side covers (take them off to adjust exhaust tappets) are the widest point of the VEE, running a tape measure across there shows the engine to be 1/2 an inch narrower than Maest/Mont from bulkhead to slam panel, also... your servo/ master cylinder is in the way.
      Ok so you could lengthen the inner & outer front wings by 4 or 6 inches, severely abuse your bulkhead to give a little clearance (or done properly by adding a couple of inches between bulkhead & suspension turret then adding another couple of inches between suspension turret & slam panel.
      Fit a remote pedal box (or even a cross link like the Mk3/4 escort to get the servo/mc out of the way)
      Then learn how to crochet with a PGMFi loom & make it all fit/ work with your car...fit an S4 autobox with the V6, that makes the loom interesting.
      We have not even touched on the subject of engine mounts yet...not a major issue though.
      As Gareth will tell you, I have messed about with these engines in several cars including the autoboxes & I can tell you, they arent all that ! a NASP T16 is more tractable at low revs, yes the C27A is a fast powerful engine but it needs its neck ringing to get much out of it, there is not a lot below 4k, it is also very expensive to do anything with (tappet side cover seals which look like big 'O' rings... over £12 each main dealer part only), its a Honda engine so nothing is cheap & due to their age now they are not that reliable any more.
      If you want a bit more there is either an M16 or a T16 but the choice is yours.
      Nige

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      • #18
        If you want NASP power delivery go for a NASP. You want proper turbo style delivery and fun go for an O series Turbo, you do have to try both to see that there is nothing wrong with the drivabilty of the 8 valve and can be just as responsive but tthe bigger turbo does take longer to spool up.

        I dont see this as a problem when i can hit full boost by 2600rpm in 4th.

        Once my engine has been rebuilt to its new spec i'll take Nige out for a spin in it, then he can get a chance to compare to the T16, might be able to compare to my mate's T16 Monty, i'll be quicker every time :laugh:

        Gareth

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        • #19
          Spool up

          Gareth, take a look at this, it would get you on boost immediately you go wide open throttle... right up your street this one

          http://www.dynopower.freeserve.co.uk...xide/index.htm

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