Hello Everyone
Do you know that next April 2010 your Montego car tax will be £205 per year.
(look it up on the Goverment web site).
This is based on your car being "old" not on co2 figures like "new" cars.
So I emailed the SMMT and asked the following question.
Can you please help me understand what the difference is between the MOT emissions tests carried out on the two following 2lt diesel powered estate cars?
Both are vehicles are tested on the same MOT emission machine.
The first vehicle has 98,760 miles on the clock, it was registered in 2004 and is showing these results.
Test limit applied. 3.00 1/m
Absorption coefficient 2.03 1/m -----1/min 0.75 1/m ----- 1/min
0.68 1/m -----1/min
0.48 1/m -----1/min
Mean Absorption coefficient 0.64 1/m Zero drift 0.00 1/m
Mean Absorption coefficient 0.64 1/m
Test type applied Turbo
Test Results Pass
The second vehicle has 89,130 miles on the clock, it was registered in 1994 and is showing these results.
Test limit applied. 3.00 1/m
Absorption coefficient 1.76 1/m -----1/min 0.52 1/m ------- 1/min
0.85 1/m -----1/min 0.74 1/m ----- 1/min
1.88 1/m -----1/min 0.82 1/m ----- 1/min
Mean Absorption coefficient 0.69 1/m Zero drift 0.01 1/m
Mean Absorption coefficient 0.68 1/m
Test type applied Turbo
Test Results Pass
The only difference I can see in the final results between the two vehicles is 0.05 1/m and 0.04 1/m on the Mean Absorption coefficients
How do you get a CO² figure from these results? What is the relationship between these results and a CO² figure?
The first vehicle is a VW Passat Estate which does 45-50mpg with a TAX disc of £150, the second is a Montego Estate which does 55-57mpg with a TAX disc of £190 this year and £205 in April. The difference in April will be £55.0
Us Montego owners are paying an extra £55.0 per year because Goverment do not have any trustworthy information, nor do any Montego owner.
The lower the CO² number the lower you pay in vehicle tax.
Eh - the Montego does not have a CO² number!!!!! why not, the answer from every source is it's "too old".
SO WHAT, my question is "WHY" is the government relying on the magazine "What Car" for their information and not producing the information for themselves. Answer is, keep bleeding the car owner dry.
All MOT testing stations DO NOT have CO² testing equipment.
So how can "ALL" 2LT vehicle owners and especially Montego vehicles owners get their own car tested as per the new cars,
ie. the Gas content of these emissions?
Does anyone know where you can get the Gizmo that can test the Montego diesels?
IF this can be carried out and if the results are a near match to the Passat or any other car for that matter and if enough people got to hear about ie. (BBC)how to carry out there own tests, you JUST MIGHT get lower vehicle tax.
Without proof there is NO chance.
The next stage would be political. However a general election is coming into view.
Here is the SMMT reply.
Good Morning,
We are not the best people to refer to on this matter, we only collect the data for the CO2 from the first Registrations of the vehicles.
You may find that VOSA are the best people to refer this matter to, the link to their website is below;
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/
What do you think?
Africar
Do you know that next April 2010 your Montego car tax will be £205 per year.
(look it up on the Goverment web site).
This is based on your car being "old" not on co2 figures like "new" cars.
So I emailed the SMMT and asked the following question.
Can you please help me understand what the difference is between the MOT emissions tests carried out on the two following 2lt diesel powered estate cars?
Both are vehicles are tested on the same MOT emission machine.
The first vehicle has 98,760 miles on the clock, it was registered in 2004 and is showing these results.
Test limit applied. 3.00 1/m
Absorption coefficient 2.03 1/m -----1/min 0.75 1/m ----- 1/min
0.68 1/m -----1/min
0.48 1/m -----1/min
Mean Absorption coefficient 0.64 1/m Zero drift 0.00 1/m
Mean Absorption coefficient 0.64 1/m
Test type applied Turbo
Test Results Pass
The second vehicle has 89,130 miles on the clock, it was registered in 1994 and is showing these results.
Test limit applied. 3.00 1/m
Absorption coefficient 1.76 1/m -----1/min 0.52 1/m ------- 1/min
0.85 1/m -----1/min 0.74 1/m ----- 1/min
1.88 1/m -----1/min 0.82 1/m ----- 1/min
Mean Absorption coefficient 0.69 1/m Zero drift 0.01 1/m
Mean Absorption coefficient 0.68 1/m
Test type applied Turbo
Test Results Pass
The only difference I can see in the final results between the two vehicles is 0.05 1/m and 0.04 1/m on the Mean Absorption coefficients
How do you get a CO² figure from these results? What is the relationship between these results and a CO² figure?
The first vehicle is a VW Passat Estate which does 45-50mpg with a TAX disc of £150, the second is a Montego Estate which does 55-57mpg with a TAX disc of £190 this year and £205 in April. The difference in April will be £55.0
Us Montego owners are paying an extra £55.0 per year because Goverment do not have any trustworthy information, nor do any Montego owner.
The lower the CO² number the lower you pay in vehicle tax.
Eh - the Montego does not have a CO² number!!!!! why not, the answer from every source is it's "too old".
SO WHAT, my question is "WHY" is the government relying on the magazine "What Car" for their information and not producing the information for themselves. Answer is, keep bleeding the car owner dry.
All MOT testing stations DO NOT have CO² testing equipment.
So how can "ALL" 2LT vehicle owners and especially Montego vehicles owners get their own car tested as per the new cars,
ie. the Gas content of these emissions?
Does anyone know where you can get the Gizmo that can test the Montego diesels?
IF this can be carried out and if the results are a near match to the Passat or any other car for that matter and if enough people got to hear about ie. (BBC)how to carry out there own tests, you JUST MIGHT get lower vehicle tax.
Without proof there is NO chance.
The next stage would be political. However a general election is coming into view.
Here is the SMMT reply.
Good Morning,
We are not the best people to refer to on this matter, we only collect the data for the CO2 from the first Registrations of the vehicles.
You may find that VOSA are the best people to refer this matter to, the link to their website is below;
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/
What do you think?
Africar
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