South east based club member with a 1989 Montego has been asking me for help in getting his column switches to be correctly aligned. I had taken it that Montego and Maestro from the same era would use common parts. Wrong! On his Montego the steering wheel is fitted to the column with a bolt, not a nut and the column switch plate does not have the clamping screw under the indicator self-cancelling collar. Then the switches do not have the clips that you squeeze together to allow the switch to slide out of the switch plate. Instead there is a red moulding that looks like it might have a role in switch removal. Main question that needs answering here, is where is the clamp bolt or screw that will allow the switch plate to be rotated around the column? Should it also lock into position when pressed down the outer column far enough? Any help or advice will be appreciated
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They changed from a nut to a bolt in about 1988ish on face lift cars. Do you have a picture of what you mean about the switch gear etc as this would be the rover type switches? Have a look at my dash removal thread as that may help as it was my gsi so face lift and the steering surround has to be removedLast edited by Jeff Turbo; 19th October 2022, 18:04.1958 Ford Consul Convertible. I love this car
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I don't think there is such an adjustment. What might have happened is one track rod end might have been changed with one of a different length. When tracking is done they like to have the same number of free threads on each side so some one might have moved the steering wheel on its splines. If the car has power steering there will be a locking pin hole in the rack to lock the steering straight ahead.
If that is not the trouble then maybe the UJ between the rack and column have been incorrectly assembled.
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Originally posted by robert1 View PostI don't think there is such an adjustment. What might have happened is one track rod end might have been changed with one of a different length. When tracking is done they like to have the same number of free threads on each side so some one might have moved the steering wheel on its splines. If the car has power steering there will be a locking pin hole in the rack to lock the steering straight ahead.
If that is not the trouble then maybe the UJ between the rack and column have been incorrectly assembled.1958 Ford Consul Convertible. I love this car
1965 Ford Zodiac Executive. Fab cruiser being restored
1997 Jaguar Xk8 Convertible. Such a fab car
2003 MGZT V8. BRG and new project
2004 MGZT cdti. Great workhorse
2004 MGZT V8. Black I love this car
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Originally posted by Jeff Turbo View PostThey changed from a nut to a bolt in about 1988ish on face lift cars. Do you have a picture of what you mean about the switch gear etc as this would be the rover type switches? Have a look at my dash removal thread as that may help as it was my gsi so face lift and the steering surround has to be removedMembership Secretary
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Originally posted by robert1 View PostI don't think there is such an adjustment. What might have happened is one track rod end might have been changed with one of a different length. When tracking is done they like to have the same number of free threads on each side so some one might have moved the steering wheel on its splines. If the car has power steering there will be a locking pin hole in the rack to lock the steering straight ahead.
If that is not the trouble then maybe the UJ between the rack and column have been incorrectly assembled.Membership Secretary
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Originally posted by Sussex Pete View Post
Thanks for the pointer Jeff. I have got pictures, but not totally clear about the position of the switch assembly, just the red insert in the switch body.Last edited by Jeff Turbo; 20th October 2022, 07:41.1958 Ford Consul Convertible. I love this car
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Originally posted by Jeff Turbo View Post
With the main screw at the bottom loosened, but not too much, maneuver the switch plate until the hazard light top is vertical and the switches are horizontal then push, the switch assembly locks into the steering column then you tighten the bottom screw. I don't get what you mean about the red insert, do you mean the hazard light unit?
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Pete, can you get the guy to take a front view and not the side as those red parts are the clamps/connections for the main switches wiring loom and nothing to do with the fixing of the main unit to the steering column. That also looks central to me from those pictures and in the right placeLast edited by Jeff Turbo; 20th October 2022, 12:21.1958 Ford Consul Convertible. I love this car
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Last edited by Jeff Turbo; 20th October 2022, 10:57.1958 Ford Consul Convertible. I love this car
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Originally posted by Jeff Turbo View PostPete, can you get the guy to take a front view and not the side as those red parts are the clamps/connections for the main switches wiring loom and nothing to do with the fixing of the main unit to the steering column. That also looks central to me from those pictures and in the right placeMembership Secretary
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Originally posted by Doctordiesel77 View PostAll of the Montego switches that I've come across do have the clips to take the switches out & have been the same as the Maestro.. photos might help1958 Ford Consul Convertible. I love this car
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Originally posted by Jeff Turbo View Post
Yeah you can see them in petes pictures, all connections are the same throughout. The only differences as you know were in the early models that had a small light to light up the switches.
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Got some pictures of his setup. He does have the clamping screw, but even with this removed, he cannot move the switch assembly in any direction. Sounds like it's been forced into place at sometime in the past by a ham-fisted mechanic and now won't move. Thankfully it is only about ten degrees off horizontal so he will live with it as is. Still claims to not see the clips to slide the switches out of the holder, though....!Last edited by Sussex Pete; 30th October 2022, 14:28.Membership Secretary
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